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Wonderful pics! I especially like the red/blue split down the middle paint job. Looks like it’s a old tram as well.
I can’t tell you how much I truly love trains, and inner city light rail is simply the best. I long for it here, though I know that Hell has to freeze over first before it happens in the US again. *sigh*
I’m looking for a new last name and place to live as of this morning. Top on my list would be a place with trolleys (which is what folks in Boston call these trams)….Oh! That’s right. Boston already has them. I’ll miss them. Sigh.
Razz – great tram pictures. Trams are great modes of transport. I wish there were more of them about. They’re so atmospheric!
BTW my favourite is the yellow one. It has food on it and I’m hungry.
Thanks and sorry for taking so long to reply. Public transport is something that is so badly neglected and so sorely needed in the US.
Ross
I guess the trams are colourful to make up for how drab the rest of Sarajevo is.
Pat
Just be thankful your last name isn’t, Bush, Palin or Hitler.
Locust
Good to see you’re back. To be honest, I’ve got no idea what the different colours signify by I suspect that maybe it has something to do with their routes.
Donald
Your comment just goes to show the difference in national attitudes about public transport. In a lot of countries the public transport systems are so good that it’s almost seem as an act of stupidity to own your own vehicle. I was surprised when I lived in the US at how bad many cities’ public transports systems were. It just didn’t seem right for such a rich country.
To put things into perspective, I didn’t get my drivers licence until I was 35 because I never felt the need to own a car because most of my life, I’ve lived in places that have good public transport.
Hopefully as owning a car become more expensive and oil starts to run out, governments around the world will spend more on public transport infrastructure.
Epic
Thanks. You’re right, trams really do help a place seem more individual.
Nice pictures. The trams (streetcars for the your fellow U.S. visitors) are built in the Czech Republic by Tatra. Tatra built over 10,000 vehicles for Middle Europe cities as Berlin, Leipzig, Dresden, Prague, Bratislava, etc. The two last pictures shows a Tatra K2YU from the 60s, the YU stands for Yugoslavia – a state who is disappeared. Trams still are a common sight in Middle-European cities and towns, unfortunality only Melbourne has a large network Down Under. Adelaide has one line, Sydney has one line, Bendigo has a heritage-line of only 4 km. LA in US had over 1000 km tram but these are replaced by always-congested freeways. Sadly, Oz & US are deeply in love with gaz guzzlers.
In the Eastern Block before 1989, it was for ordinary people long waiting for a car, and the cars you could have were Lada’s and Trabants, but even those are more fuel effecient than the SUVs like Hummers or ordinary large US cars such as the Chevy Caprice . So trams remained as the backbone for public transport. Tatra was the main builder for trams. The company disappered from 1996 onwards. Today, Tatra tram knowledge and expertise is in the hands of the consortium Aliance TW, a consortium of three small Czech companies.
Once again, thanks for sharing your vast knowledge of rail vehicles. I’m reminded of what an old bush walker by the name of Paddy Pallin once said about the bush (forest). “If you know the names of a few of the plants it is no longer just bush”. I guess what I’m trying to say, is that the more we know about something the more we will get out of it. Thanks to you, the trams in Sarajevo are no longer just trams.
Razz, you’re welcome. It also applies for those railways in Oz with the pathetic thing every state choose their own gauge, so your folks down under have to deal with three different gauges. With Internet I learned a lot about Australian railways. Lack of suitable waterways means the train is the transport modus for bulk and intermodal freight transport, similar to America, Russia, China and other large countries with 3-km long double-stack trains. India even proposes triple-stack.
“If you know the names of a few of the plants it is no longer just bush”. Today I know much more about Australian rail, fortunality it is not longer just rail.
I think you’re being too kind in saying that, “the pathetic thing every state choose their own gauge”. I think having the different gauges is completely stupid and I think it should be standardised so we can get more trucks off the road to save lives and benefit the environment. Politicians are so short sighted it just makes me scream.
Who knows, maybe you could learn more about the rail here by actually coming over and having a look for yourself. I’m pretty sure you’d find the wide open spaces of Australia a lot different to your homeland.
I want to come over to Oz, to learn about rail and the pathetic thing every state choose their own gauge. Beside more trucks off the road, for fast bulk or intermodal transport rail is the only solution. Especially in Australia, because the Australia is so dry Australia have no navigable inland waterways. Politicians are actually sort of used car salesmen and saleswomen. Razz, would you ever buy a used Holden from Mr Howard?
January 18th, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Wonderful pics! I especially like the red/blue split down the middle paint job. Looks like it’s a old tram as well.
I can’t tell you how much I truly love trains, and inner city light rail is simply the best. I long for it here, though I know that Hell has to freeze over first before it happens in the US again. *sigh*
-TP
January 19th, 2010 at 10:23 am
Those are some good looking colourful trains.
January 20th, 2010 at 6:29 am
I’m looking for a new last name and place to live as of this morning. Top on my list would be a place with trolleys (which is what folks in Boston call these trams)….Oh! That’s right. Boston already has them. I’ll miss them. Sigh.
January 20th, 2010 at 11:45 am
I like these. They look almost personalised. Perhaps each driver has their own personal bus heraldry…
January 20th, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Nice trolleys/trams. Colorful and pleasant looking. And most amazing, it looks like people actually use them!
January 26th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Razz – great tram pictures. Trams are great modes of transport. I wish there were more of them about. They’re so atmospheric!
BTW my favourite is the yellow one. It has food on it and I’m hungry.
January 26th, 2010 at 9:32 pm
Turkish
Thanks and sorry for taking so long to reply. Public transport is something that is so badly neglected and so sorely needed in the US.
Ross
I guess the trams are colourful to make up for how drab the rest of Sarajevo is.
Pat
Just be thankful your last name isn’t, Bush, Palin or Hitler.
Locust
Good to see you’re back. To be honest, I’ve got no idea what the different colours signify by I suspect that maybe it has something to do with their routes.
Donald
Your comment just goes to show the difference in national attitudes about public transport. In a lot of countries the public transport systems are so good that it’s almost seem as an act of stupidity to own your own vehicle. I was surprised when I lived in the US at how bad many cities’ public transports systems were. It just didn’t seem right for such a rich country.
To put things into perspective, I didn’t get my drivers licence until I was 35 because I never felt the need to own a car because most of my life, I’ve lived in places that have good public transport.
Hopefully as owning a car become more expensive and oil starts to run out, governments around the world will spend more on public transport infrastructure.
Epic
Thanks. You’re right, trams really do help a place seem more individual.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:31 pm
Nice pictures. The trams (streetcars for the your fellow U.S. visitors) are built in the Czech Republic by Tatra. Tatra built over 10,000 vehicles for Middle Europe cities as Berlin, Leipzig, Dresden, Prague, Bratislava, etc. The two last pictures shows a Tatra K2YU from the 60s, the YU stands for Yugoslavia – a state who is disappeared. Trams still are a common sight in Middle-European cities and towns, unfortunality only Melbourne has a large network Down Under. Adelaide has one line, Sydney has one line, Bendigo has a heritage-line of only 4 km. LA in US had over 1000 km tram but these are replaced by always-congested freeways. Sadly, Oz & US are deeply in love with gaz guzzlers.
In the Eastern Block before 1989, it was for ordinary people long waiting for a car, and the cars you could have were Lada’s and Trabants, but even those are more fuel effecient than the SUVs like Hummers or ordinary large US cars such as the Chevy Caprice . So trams remained as the backbone for public transport. Tatra was the main builder for trams. The company disappered from 1996 onwards. Today, Tatra tram knowledge and expertise is in the hands of the consortium Aliance TW, a consortium of three small Czech companies.
January 30th, 2010 at 5:56 pm
Joost
Once again, thanks for sharing your vast knowledge of rail vehicles. I’m reminded of what an old bush walker by the name of Paddy Pallin once said about the bush (forest). “If you know the names of a few of the plants it is no longer just bush”. I guess what I’m trying to say, is that the more we know about something the more we will get out of it. Thanks to you, the trams in Sarajevo are no longer just trams.
March 14th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
Razz, you’re welcome. It also applies for those railways in Oz with the pathetic thing every state choose their own gauge, so your folks down under have to deal with three different gauges. With Internet I learned a lot about Australian railways. Lack of suitable waterways means the train is the transport modus for bulk and intermodal freight transport, similar to America, Russia, China and other large countries with 3-km long double-stack trains. India even proposes triple-stack.
“If you know the names of a few of the plants it is no longer just bush”. Today I know much more about Australian rail, fortunality it is not longer just rail.
March 15th, 2010 at 7:39 am
Joost
I think you’re being too kind in saying that, “the pathetic thing every state choose their own gauge”. I think having the different gauges is completely stupid and I think it should be standardised so we can get more trucks off the road to save lives and benefit the environment. Politicians are so short sighted it just makes me scream.
Who knows, maybe you could learn more about the rail here by actually coming over and having a look for yourself. I’m pretty sure you’d find the wide open spaces of Australia a lot different to your homeland.
May 28th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
I want to come over to Oz, to learn about rail and the pathetic thing every state choose their own gauge. Beside more trucks off the road, for fast bulk or intermodal transport rail is the only solution. Especially in Australia, because the Australia is so dry Australia have no navigable inland waterways. Politicians are actually sort of used car salesmen and saleswomen. Razz, would you ever buy a used Holden from Mr Howard?